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Co-founder of once top O.C. subprime lender dies

January 9th, 2009, 11:40 am · 104 Comments · posted by Mathew Padilla

(Update II: Quote from Kerry Vandell added, more background on Gotschall.)

Edward Gotschall, co-founder of a former market leader in loans to people with spotty credit and a man who pledged millions of dollars to Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo and other causes, died Thursday of natural causes, according to Coto de Caza neighbor Paul Scheper and a family friend. He was 53.

Gotschall and three others founded New Century Financial in 1995. He managed the company’s books and worked with Wall Street investment bankers, helping build the Irvine-based lender into one the largest subprime lenders in the nation, with nearly $60 billion in loans in a single year.

“Ed was a life-giver, full of energy and passion,” said Scheper, vice president of lender Trust One Mortgage in Irvine. “He always lit up the room with his smile and his kind heart. He was very caring and fun. Heck, we just took a walk together two weeks ago and then saw each other at the Mission Hospital Gala, where he anonymously donated millions to the Mission Trauma Center. He was so caring and charitable.”

Bill Kaszton, a friend of the Gotschalls, said Gotschall died quietly while watching a football game last night.

“He had a remarkable love for sports, especially football, especially his Ohio Buckeyes,” Kaszton said. Gotschall attended Ohio State University as an undergraduate but later switched to Arizona State University, getting a bachelor’s degree in business administration.

New Century prospered during the housing boom, but ran out of cash after its home loans began defaulting in large numbers. It filed for bankruptcy liquidation in 2007 and was sold in pieces.

The company previously disclosed it is under federal investigation for sales of securities and accounting errors, but it has never said if any former executives are being investigated.

Kerry Vandell, professor of finance and director of UCI’s Center for Real Estate, said while subprime lenders have received much criticism they helped expand credit and homeownership to a wider pool of consumers.

Subprime lenders played a role in creating the credit crisis, but they were playing by the rules and in the environment set up by others, Vandell said. If one wants to look for true instigators of the credit boom and bust, start with former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, who cut interest rates and left them low for too long, Vandell said.

Vandell expects a rebound in subprime to some degree, after President-Elect Barack Obama and Congress improve oversight of home lending and investment banking.

“There is no intrinsic reason why we can’t move down the credit quality queue and market these mortgages, as long as credit risk is properly priced,” Vandell said.

Gotschall was the son of a coal miner and grew up in a small mining town in Ohio. In addition to raising money for and donating to Mission Hospital, he supported the Boy Scouts of Irvine and San Juan Capistrano High School.

Funeral arrangements are pending. Gotschall was married to his wife Susan for more than 25 years and raised three children.

And here’s highlights from New Century’s final days…

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104 Comments

104 Comments

  • Ed was a nice man.
    Condolences to his family

  • sam says:

    natural causes at his age? he appears very young.

  • Pam H says:

    Ed had a huge heart and huge smile. He will be missed by so many. My smpathies to the family of Ed.

  • Cindy says:

    I worked with Ed for many years. He was one of the most kind hearted, family oriented, honest men I have ever met.

    For those of you who are posting negative comments…please remember he leaves a loving family and friends who are filed with grief.. If you knew Ed you would never post these types of comments.

    He was always generous with helping others. He will be missed.

  • thrive247 says:

    Condolences to his friends and family.

    Leroy and sunsetbeachguy- i didn’t see any subprime borrowers complaining when they were buying houses they couldn’t afford or refi-ing to buy their Mercedes and Porsches!
    What Mr. Gotschall offered was a product to people who would not have ordinarily been able to qualify for a loan. That’s hardly an evil enterprise.
    People need to take responsibility for their part in the housing collapse — EVERYONE was benefiting (for a time) from the lax lending standards.

  • Leroy says:

    PAM

    Maybe you do not know the contributions Ed made to the SUBPRIME MESS! He mad millions and others paid the price.

    He won’ t be missed by the people he hurt with his loans!

  • Josie says:

    He belonged in a jail cell with Bernie Madoff

  • thetruthteller says:

    Ed was a 1st class guy who hurt no one.

  • thetruthteller says:

    Leroy, stop making assumptions

  • bpsqwerty says:

    just a guess, and then they came back, begging and pleading for a job?

  • Francis says:

    Michael Shorey did Ed do a subprime loan for you?

  • neversurprised says:

    Did he manage New Century’s books or cook them ? (see articles above )

  • Francis says:

    TRUTHTELLER are one of his stooge’s?

    NEW CENTURY went BK while Gotschall cashed out for over 100 million dollars.

    Hello.. anyone home?

  • Mathew Padilla, Reporter says:

    Sunsetbeachguy…

    I deleted Sunsetbeachguy’s comment, because we are enforcing our policy on comments, including no personal attacks. Also, I cannot “edit” a comment under our policy; I can only delete it.

    Sunsetbeachguy argued that Gotschall and people like him have put the financial system at risk for their personal gain. Readers can make such arguments, if they wish, but please be careful to avoid name calling and try to keep things civil.

    Thanks.

  • mc says:

    Ed was a very fine man with the highest of business ethics. Those who paint him with the broad “subprimer” brush do not have any idea of the man that Ed was.

    I knew Ed and the most impressive thing about him was his incredible devotion to his family and to the community. We have lost a truly great man.

  • disappointed says:

    To rants, leroy, sunsetbeachguy and others,
    Do your homework before preaching such malicious comments about someone you don’t even know. Ed was long gone and out of New Century way before any problems arrised. He gave hope to a lot of borrowers that no one would ever give a chance to. It’s the mortgage brokers that took advantage of this, the borrower themselves that signed on it and wall street that approved it. Remember New Century was not the first to go, the crumble happened with others way before. Nobodies perfect, and nobody deserves judgement after an unexpected passing. Our society can not make things better with people like all of you passing judgement. If you knew him personally you would know all the good he tried to do while on this earth and what a good man he was. More people should be like him.

  • Laurie says:

    Thank you Cindy,

    Ed was a great Family Man and a wonderful person that did many great things for so many. You put it oh so elequently. My prayers are with the family he left behind. He will definately be missed.

  • david says:

    Does anyone wonder how such a young man can die of a natural death while watching football? Even people with illnesses don’t die so young.

  • saved says:

    Remember that there are many families that got a chance to buy homes after renting for years…
    These families still live in those homes because of New Century

  • Richard says:

    Ed Gotschall profited off the subprime scam. American Taxpayers are picking up the tab. He was greedy and now he is gone.

  • saved says:

    Francis,
    Ed so long gone off of the New Century board before the Bankruptcy was even thought of…
    Get your facts right!

  • Bobarty says:

    He took the easy way out. I just hope his cronies who helped build up these companies that destroyed the economy get the jailtime he lucked out of

  • Richard says:

    TRUTHTELLER

    What about the New Century Stockholders who got wiped out in BK while Gotschall cashed out for millions?

    This guy never missed a meal while thousands of his bad loans will cost taxpapers billions.

    You are not much of a truth teller. The truth is this guy was as bad as Bernie Madoff

  • gary says:

    nice guy? so is bush and cheney and rumsfeld and satan but i wont suffer a tear at any of their demise.

  • Liar Loan says:

    Matt-

    Putting this on the front page of the Register is practically inviting attacks. There’s hypocrisy on the part of Register management for enforcing a policy of “civility” while intentionally posting stories to stir up controversy that will generate such attacks.

    How many times have I logged on to the Register website only to see the top headline is a shooting or stabbing in Anaheim or Santa Ana? It’s fine to report on this stuff, but when I click on the link there’s nothing more than one paragraph with no real details. It’s just an open forum for readers to vent about Anacrime and Stabba Ana… not mention the illegals that reside there.

    I think these cheap tactics will ultimately backfire on the Register. The readers that log on for these types of articles are not the type to click thru to advertisers’ websites. Web ad revenues are already down and I think the Register’s advertisers will wise up to their dollars being wasted.

  • loudog says:

    I worked with Ed for 11 years at New Century - sat right outside his office for 2 of those years. At the time, I had a relatively menial job, and Ed was a top executive.

    Not a day went by when this man would not stop by my desk to say hello, genuinely ask how I and my family were doing, drop what he was doing to sing “Happy Birthday” with the crew. These and many other things always left me with an overwhelmingly positive feeling that Ed was the real deal - a great guy.

    I did not know the inner workings of his loan valuation models, mark-to-market accounting, etc. But what i do know is that this man had a very generous heart and mind, and despite comments that he deliberately “cooked books”, I sincerely believe Ed thought New Century (as well as a small handful of other lenders) was performing a service that most other lenders wouldn’t do - which ultimately put folks into homes who would never have had the opportunity if it wasn’t for the subprime model. As the market became more competitive, the loan programs spiraled out of control - and NCEN was not immune to trying to “one-up” the next lender with more aggressive loan programs.

    Without question, Ed and the other execs at NCEN and other lenders profited significantly during the boom period of subprime - and if it wasn’t NCEN, someone else would have been reaping those profits. Give me a break, everyone is in business to make money and reap as high a return as possible.

    The difference is that Ed gave back to the community in spades with his volunteer work (anonymous donations to Mission Hospital, countless hours with Habitat for Humanity, Boy Scouts, etc.).

    Ed is a good soul; I take great comfort knowing that he is in a much better place. Susan & family: my prayers and thoughts are with you.

  • kyle Beatty says:

    Ed was a wonderful man in every way. He was honest, generous, a family man. He believed the greatest benefit of his wealth was not what he could acquire, but what he could give.

    The world will be a little less nice without Ed in it. I feel sorrow for his wife and three young, adult children.

  • non-homeowner says:

    “What Mr. Gotschall offered was a product to people who would not have ordinarily been able to qualify for a loan. That’s hardly an evil enterprise.”

    While the sentiment may not be evil, the result certainly isn’t unicorns and rainbows. There’s a very good reason those people wouldn’t ordinarily be able to qualify for a loan. THEY COULDN’T AFFORD IT.

    10 freakin’ years I’ve been making enough money that I _should_ be able to afford a house. Would have been able to if they’d stayed in the 2-3x mean salary range that has been the norm for generations. But no. Just as my career got going, prices were passing 4x. “Oh, this can’t hold. It’ll correct soon.” Then 5x, 6x, 7x, 10x, and more. Absolute freakin’ insanity. And the cost wasn’t driven by a remarkable increase in the actual value of the homes. It was driven by this easy money. People didn’t worry about having to pay the mortgage for 30 years. They worried about paying it for 6 months when they’d flip it to the next person who also got an easy loan they couldn’t really afford. And they didn’t care that they couldn’t afford it because THEY would flip it in 6 months. Meanwhile, everyone else raises their selling price because the house down the block is now “worth” nearly double what it was 2 years ago.

    The part that makes me especially bitter is the fact that I could have just barely afforded to buy a home in 1997. Rent out rooms to college kids, eat ramen, etc. with about 80% of my net income going to pay the mortgage. I left that area a couple years ago which would have been an excellent time to sell. Probably would have netted $300,000-400,000. Which I could have used to buy a house outright for cash towards the end of last year as a nice Christmas present. But, no, I had to go and be financially responsible and not make the ridiculous choice of signing a 30 year piece of paper that would take 80% of my income to pay each month, relying on rental income to stay afloat. Maybe a hundred bucks a week left over. So, now, instead of having a paid-off home or a 6 figure nest egg, I’ve barely got the downpayment for a home which, with a bit of luck I may be able to put to use in the next couple of years. With over 10 years of equity burned off in rent.

    So, while Mr. Gotschall may have been a really nice guy, the “easy money” culture he helped create has done a huge amount of harm to our economy and our society. Many people in their 20s and 30s who should be 5-10 years into their mortgages have been renting and the money that should have been building equity is gone.

    That is why you’re seeing a lot of schadenfreude every time something bad happens to anyone even remotely involved with sub-prime lending. Doesn’t matter what kind of person they were or what their intentions were when they started out. The people who jumped on the bandwagon are losing everything and the ones who were responsible can finally tally up how much money that lost by being responsible.

  • Liar Loan says:

    There seems to be a divergent opinion of Mr. Gotschall between those that knew him personally, and those that read the word ’subprime’ in the article heading… Interesting.

  • Disgusted says:

    It’s very easy to be generous when you have millions. I am certain that many crooks have donated or pledged millions when they can afford to do it. It’s called “spin”, people. Geez, I find it hard to believe that many posts call him ethical when the very essence of subprime is the very opposite. I do not believe that for a second. Perhaps he was great to family, friends or other social entities, but the current state of the economy dictates what kind of person he was.

  • Joe Boczek says:

    I grew up with Ed in Shadyside, Ohio and whjile I have not seen him in years, I can tell you he was one of the most respecful people you would ever meet. I don’t pretend to be a financial guru at all so I can’t speak to some of the negative comments that are being posted. However, I do find it quite interesting that many people seem to have had the same opinion of him that I have some 30 years later. You know leopards don’t change their spots. Rest in Peace my friend Rest in Peace. You always did it right.

  • Louis says:

    So, Non-Homeowner, did you instead make a killing riding the DOW to 14,100 instead during this same period of time?

  • notAhomeowner says:

    I also worked at NCEN for 4 years and found Ed to be very genial person and truly interested in those that worked for him. He will be greatly missed by those that knew him.

    For those of you who feel you have must speak ill of the dead and continually bring up the “Sub-Prime Mess”, let me ask you this: Are you a homeowner who can no longer afford your payment? Why did you buy a house you had no hope of ever being able to pay for?? I, too, have had a downpayment for a house ready to go and was in the process of trying to qualify for a loan when the bottom fell out of the credit market. I waited until I could truly afford a house payment rather than trying to lie, cheat or scam my way into a loan that I could not afford. There are many people that have a sub-prime loan that would never have been able to qualify even for that if they had not falsified documents or just downright lied about their income. And now those people are the ones crying that the sub-prime lenders took advantage. YOU COULDN’T AFFORD THE PAYMENT, why did you buy the house?? No deal is done until all the paperwork is signed. Once they found out how much the monthly payments would be they should have walked away if they couldn’t make it. Don’t blame the lender because they gave you what you asked for.

  • FACTMAN-JTM says:

    My heart felt condolences to his friends and family.

    Ed was a GREAT man with the highest of personal and business ethics. He must have been an eagle scout because he lived the scout motto. Ed was a genuine person that preferred straight talk, Ed and P Rank fought for the rights of consumers and stock holders to make fair and reasonable profits while helping consumers along the way. Ed then gave back to the community’s of the USA many times over and in many cases only the tax man knows to what church, hospital, playground, learning center, or food bank. His family should be proud of his accomplishments and how he strived to consistently improve to be a better man, father, friend, and mentor. I’m proud to have known him and thrilled to have fought by his side against unfair lending practices and lack of compliance in the lending industry. I’m a world recognized consultant who has worked with almost all major banks and lending institutions and the FACTS are Ed was the voice of the American people, if anything stress may have played a part in his early departure fighting for your rights. Now who will carry the flag!

    To Brain dead People like “Francis” or anyone that personally didn’t know Ed.

    Look this up! Is it possible? Bank provides a loan for $400k with now points and a Broker with 2 points yet the loan amt. is still $400k what loan would you take knowing 2 points is $8,000.00 Big Bank or Broker? See the loan amt. is the same Banks don’t have to disclose points (Lobbies big $) but brokers do? So now you see one of the big battles Ed fought for the USA pick up the flag!

  • LPB says:

    A family grieves today. Ed was a husband, a father, a son, a brother and a friend. For all of you who are denigrating a man you didn’t even know - STOP. This is not the time or the place to air your personal feelings about our economy.

  • damania says:

    I’d liketo see how the register reports on Dick Cheney’s death. I’m sure they’ll dig up up charitable contributions from somewhere.

  • Liar Loan says:

    non-homeowner,

    Gotschall isn’t responsible for the choices you’ve made… you are. It’s time to start taking responsibility for where you are in life.

    The real estate bubble happened because literally millions of Americans (and non-Americans) bought into it. You can’t blame it all on lenders, who provided the product (financing) that was in demand.

  • Louis says:

    Liar Loan…..don’t worry, Non-Homeowner did not save the money either….who knows but someone is sure to be blamed for that too.

  • Cindy says:

    One last comment from me…

    I lost a lot of money and a good job\career because of the credit crisis that has gripped our country. I do not blame a specific person, everyone in the loan and secondary market process shares the blame. It is life. Deal with it. Life is not fair.

    Ed was not the person who caused this. If you believe that you are not looking at the facts.

    I could list dozens of things I personally saw Ed do to help others and almost always done with no fan fare and self promoting.

    Remember something else. Even if 20% of subprime borrowers are unable to pay there are 80% that are homeowners right now that would never have become homeowner if it were not for subprime loans.

    There are greedy people in any business. Ed was not one of them and claiming so in his passing is cowardly.

  • Tom M says:

    I can’t believe these thieves from the world of subprime thieves are being compared to Mother Theresa.

  • Cassidy says:

    The truth about Ed Gotschall.

    1) New Century went BK and shareholder were left with nothing
    2) New Century funded billions of dolllars in subprime mortgages that had defaulted and taxpapers are holding the bag.
    3) Gotschall never returned any of his millions of dollars to shareholders or taxpapers when his loans went bad.

    He is no hero. Lets no rewrite history.

    Bernie Madoff gave money to charities too - look how that turned out.

    If he is so wonderful how come New Century Shareholders lost everything?

  • Cassidy says:

    TOM

    BRAVO! These lemmings do not have a clue on how much pain Gotschall caused shareholders who believed the financials.

  • steve H says:

    Ed was a phenominal business man, honest and ethical. He lived his life with respect for everyone. He donated HIS money to Mission Hospital and various charities.
    I had the pleasure to work with Ed for 11 years and he is one of the most sincere gentlemen I know. I will miss Ed and his positive motivational messages he always conveyed. God Bless you Ed and my thoughts and prayers go to Susan and his family.
    Steve H

  • meltdown says:

    HELLO ALL, and welcome to the ocregister blog..

    Its very interesting to see comments from those that worked in the loan industry. It goes to show that many in the industry had no idea about the risks involved with these types of loans. I know some friends who worked the industry and even signed up their own family and friends for loans and refi’s. Its tragic any way you look at it.

    I hope to see all of you industry insiders more often on the ocregister realestate blog. Please swing by and give us your input..
    http://www.ocregister.com/realestate/news/

  • Cassidy says:

    STEVE H

    What about New Century shareholders who were left with worthless stock? What about US taxpapers who are holding the bag on worthless paper he funded .. billions of it?

    You like those ETHICS?

  • jill says:

    I worked at new century for 11 years I watched the doors open and close I made many close friends there, I can’t say how sorry I am for Ed and his family , he always had a great smile and was very nice to everyone, I can remember the early days when there was only a handful of us and Ed and the other owners bought us lunch even if it was mcdonalds they were very nice to every one. Please for the people who are saying all the bad coments he was a great person a wonderful father and a devoted husband. May he rest in piece, Ed you were a good leader. Thank you for the great 11 years at new century.,

  • FRANK says:

    Don’t badmouth New Century. They were just dealing out the loans that Wall Street dictated they had to do.

  • HaveaSoul says:

    I just want to remind all of you “Adults” that are leaving these comments about Ed, No matter what happened in his business world, He died last night and thats that. 3 children lost their father and a wife lost their husband. If your angry with him then so be it, but why bash on someone that is already dead. You all need to show some maturity and compassion towards the Gotschall family and not post evil comments about their deceased father. Have some respect and have a soul. Ed was a kind man. Stop posting horrible things on a public website and find somewhere else to be a horrible person.

  • Frank says:

    Ed was a very nice man, God Bless his family. Ed always had a smile on his face and treated everyone with respect.

  • former ncm'er says:

    Thoughts and prayers are with Ed’s family.
    God Bless

  • Jeanie says:

    ABSOLUTLY one of the kindness, sincere, humble and Christ like families you could ever meet. Ed and his wife Susan went out of their way to make you feel welcomed included no matter what your situation in life. Two of the most down to earth people you could ever meet. Thank you for sharing your home and your friendship with so many. Ed’s huge smile, warm hugs, and generosity of heart will be missed immensely. Our family is praying for his dear wife and wonderful children. God Bless you Ed. We know in our hearts Christ welcomed you with open arms. Ed Gotchall a great husband, father, and truly descent human being. The Gotchall family is a true reflection of the best of humanity. If we all could be as genuine as Ed the world would be a better place.

  • jeff says:

    Giving to charity and saying hi to the person who brings you coffee in the morning does not make someone a good man. I dont know Ed, but you have to wonder how many of those applications had true content on them. So how did he truely make millions? Sorry but being a nice guy never makes you millions. It just doesn’t happen that way. Taking risks makes millions and he took the risks that probably stressed his body out beyond belief. Cmon guys… everyone knows how the game was played. And for you Brokers out there… how many apps did you push through that were false… oh but I got my commiss check! Sub prime type loans were never intended to be widely sold to the public. At first there were only a few qualified lenders. Then after congress thought they would do us all a favor and say loser, sleep all day type people deserved a chance at owning, did we get screwed. Once anyone and their brother could scam people into these, the fury broke out. Its like in nature when one preadtor dies off unexpectibly, it screws up the whole balance and you get major infestation of the unwanted.

    In all honesty, my heart goes out to his family and close friends who hopefully loved him. Its sad to see someone die young.

  • Mike Cheuvront says:

    I can’t believe the insensitivity of some of the posters here; Go ahead, kick a man when he’s down. It’s like a bunch of morons watching some guy getting pummeled and egging on the bullies so they can wallow in their newfound sense of pitiful importance. All of you imbeciles should be jumping for joy because Ed just paid the ultimate price, his life. It could possibly have been the stress that did him in. Don’t think for a minute that he wasn’t sorry for all that has happened.

    Let me tell you about Ed. I grew up with him in a little town called Amsterdam, Ohio and I’ve known him for almost fifty years. If I had to pick the one person in my life that I respected the most, it would be Ed. He came from a loving family, the sweetest, most loving family imaginable. He was a straight-A student and the happiest, most good-natured kid in the whole town. He was honestly one those people who could make you feel good about living. Continued…

  • Mike Cheuvront says:

    We played basketball together and he excelled at every sport that he played. He was always charitable and would be the first to offer his help or advice, a real team player. I looked up to him and would have been very surprised if he would not have become a raging success. Soon after we hit high school, Ed and his family moved away and it was tough on the whole town. They were loved and really missed.

    I lost touch with him for a few years until we hooked up again when he was attending Ohio State. His house was always open for weekend stays for me and our friends. He was a great host and had the coolest music collection ever. He loved to party, never to escape life but always cherishing it, along with his beloved Pink Floyd, full-blast. I moved to California and a few years later he transferred to Arizona State. He worked in a brickyard for awhile to help put himself through college. His father, also an honorable man, taught Ed the no-work, no-play ethic to life. That had to be tough, working over a hot kiln in 130 degree Phoenix heat! He paid dues that most people would not have the courage to even think about. He opened up his home to some friends of ours and they wound up staying there for a few years. If you knew these guys you would wonder how he put up with them, but that was the kind of guy he was, forgiving and gracious to the bitter end.
    Continued…

  • Mike Cheuvront says:

    We lost touch again until years later after he moved to California. He had always dreamed of becoming a CPA so I googled him, figuring that he probably had one of those boring websites that I could find and try to reach him. I was stunned to find that he was a big shot mortgage company founder at New Century Mortgage. This wasn’t just some lame deal – it was huge! We became “concert buddies” again and got together occasionally for the big events. I always thought that somebody should make a movie about his life – he was such an inspiration. He never bragged about anything and said that all he did was “crunch numbers, it’s not rocket science,” etc… I had to read on the web about all of his charitable exploits. He did brag about his family, though, and after meeting his sons I understood why – they reminded me of him. They were just plain good-hearted kids, not the typical “growing-up-snooty-no-time-for-you rich punks.”
    Continued…

  • Mike Cheuvront says:

    As far as the business and economy goes, I can’t fathom how someone could point the finger at Ed and say that he was responsible for the downfall. He was just a part of the freight train that we all were hanging onto, from the ATM homeowner liar-loan crowd to the Wall Street hustlers to the hang-loose government under-seers. Tell me that you would have done something differently. It’s just 20/20 in hindsight. Honestly, we all thought it was never going to end or that things were going to turn around. Ed got caught up in it but there isn’t a person in this world who can convince me that he was trying to do damage to anybody. That is just not the type of person he was. He was a team player.

    My heart goes out to his families and friends. This is a tragic loss and I will miss him. If you knew him, you would feel the same way. God, rest his soul.

  • Roger Lewis says:

    Ed was the valedictorian of our Shadyside High School class of 1973. He was also a class officer. His mother still lives here in Shadyside. Those who knew him then all called him a friend. In his hometown he will be remembered as a great athlete, the smartest kid in school, a first class friend and a great success. The thoughts and prayers of Shadyside and his classmates are with his family. We will always be proud of him.

  • Cindy says:

    Up until 30 days ago everyone thought Bernie Madoff was a nice guy too.

    Gotschall cashed out for millons before his company went BK and destroyed shareholder value. What about the mess he left behind with billions in bad loans?

    He is not a nice guy!

  • bear1035 says:

    Employee #6

    I will always remember what a kind and generous man he was. My deepest condolences go out to Susan and kids. Ed was always very genuinely concerned about all he came in contact with. He will be missed.

  • I have to side with non-homeowner. The truth about subprime loans is that they inflate property values by removing supply and enslave unqualified borrowers in a cycle of cash out refinancing.

    The argument that subprime loans have helped anyone achieve homeownership is asinine and unfounded. Homeownership is meant to last beyond 6-12 months and not require a giant Ponzi scheme (unsubstantiated appreciation) from ever increasing declines in lending standards.

    Once Wall Street became actively involved in lending; the prior, proven and regulated safety and soundness guidelines were tossed out the window. The government has allocated up to $8 trillion to solve this crisis almost 1/2 the value of all outstanding mortgages. Sure Ed was not alone in his crimes, but saying hello in an office while stealing from taxpayers via poor and desperate “subprime borrowers” to do “charity work” does not make him a nice man.

    Ed and many others like him who may or may not have been “nice” people joined in with the new fraudulent guidelines to self enrich. PERIOD. If Ed was such a great man he would have joined with me to try and alert the regulators, law enforcement, media, etc. to stop the destruction of the American Dream of Homeownership and possibly our Nation. No I don’t claim to be a great man, but helping clients commit loan fraud or financial suicide would have made me a bad man no matter how “nice” I was to my family and associates.

    http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/federal/2005/05comguide.html
    #20

    Just because Angelo, Sandler, Kerry, Fuld, Paulson and all the other “big wigs” were driving our Nation off a cliff did not make it alright for Ed to join.

    Personally, I would rather have jerks as executives than “nice” people who are unwilling to act in our Nation’s best interest, especially when they are in a position of power and influence.

    Ed and other Executives should be disgorged from their ill gotten gains and indicted. This crisis is far from over and if we continue down the current path we will see anarchy. Borrowers who committed fraud are receiving principal reductions of $200-$300k; this is ridiculous and will destroy our currency if allowed to continue.

    Hopefully Congress will get off their butts and do something for a change. Schumer was on CNBC recently and he stated that Congress would be going after the lending execs for clawbacks/disgorgement. Undoubtedly, Ed’s family should be in this camp of ill gotten gains.

    Brad Sherman and a few other reps like him should remain in office, but the rest should go; they have been complicit in Ed’s crimes and this crisis that will be with us for decades.

    Yes, setting guidelines that allowed rampant fraud to proliferate in your company is a crime; a crime no different than hiring a hit man for murder. The executives knew that borrowers and loan originators would commit fraud if given the opportunity and the guidelines, lack of audits and even concealment of fraud make this very clear.

    In my market median home prices are down or should I say were inflated by at least $300,000. Median prices have came down from $865k to $550k and based on median incomes, Option ARM resets, late peak of 10/07 (2/28 & 3/27s resets are still coming) and a rapidly detiorating economy price declines will get much worse. Unfortunately, many of these borrowers were actually qualified and could be more damaged because they are ineligible for loan mods.

    Is what these executives have done very different than rape/robbery? In fact, one could argue that their crimes are much more damaging to society as a whole than rape and robbery; at least on the magnitude of the offenses.

    Saying that all the unqualified borrowers should have known better has merit, but so should Ed. Ultimately, Ed has been enriched by exploiting the poor and reckless at our expense.

    It is time for America to get off their fat rears and demand justice - disgorgement and indictments.

    http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml

    Send your message today - do something patriotic.

  • cd says:

    Ed-rest in peace..

    but as stated before his hands were dirty and he was part of this..

    having worked at NC for 6 months and leaving because of the fraud, deception and gross negligence in underwriting loans I would say he was a part of the reason the US is in trouble..Creating tiered loans to people who could not afford them is predatory lending….

    They defined greed is good very well….

    Many of the NC personnel might have been nice but greed acts that way when it wants to..

    They burned america….Respect for the dead, yes, respect for their ponzi scheme no…

  • RC says:

    All,
    As a man, Ed was absolutely genuine and of strong character.
    As an executive, he was understanding, giving and supportive.
    As a friend, he was open, honest and caring.

    Whatever your feelings about the current economic turmoil, Ed was hardly the reason for it. One’s intent is of equal importance to the result. His intent was pure and he believed in helping others to achieve their goals and dreams. Do yourself a favor and separate the man from your bitterness about subprime lending/international turmoil.

    Those who know him loved him. Those who didn’t simply are looking for someone else to blame. Surely those same folks would view things much differently if they knew Ed as a man, executive, husband, father and friend.

    Love and prayers to the Gotschall family.

  • Larry P. says:

    Simply put, this thread is the most disgusting example of why this blog has become a manipulative almost useless piece of salacious tripe among many others like it on the web. This is NOT journalism!!! This is blatantly a story designed to bring out the human waste that cheer the death of a man they neither knew anything about before they read the words “subprime” and “New Century” in front of his name nor that was ever charged with any crimes against his fellow man! The people that post such things would have made wonderful Nazi’s in WWII or lynch mobs in the racist South…ignorant AND hateful! What a combination! What wonderful human beings you all must be? Do you pee on graves at the cemetery too? Losers!

    As for you Mr. Padilla, you have been exposed. You can’t stop yourself from posting blog topics that bring out the WORST in people! It’s one thing to get a semi-intelligent discussion going. This one was un-necessary and the entire thread should have been deleted and not just one idiot’s post, after it fell off the rails into people being “happy” and his death having “made their day”. Why should the death of this man be posted on a blog called “Mortgage Insider”? Besides being a “Founder” of New Century what does this article tell us about this man’s relevance to your blog? Was he convicted of any crimes? Did he create the products and programs sold by New Century such as the infamous “High LTV No Doc” loan? Did he mastermind any fraudulent conspiracies? Not what the ignorant masses who can’t balance their own checkbooks or understand simple interest that post on this blog think is fraud but did he actively strive to DEFRAUD people out of money? And if so, why isn’t that mentioned in the article? A little afraid of libel are we? The sheeple have no problem with libel as you can tell from their posts. Or were you just hoping to post a blog with “Subprime” and “New Century” and “Death of founder” and HOPE that an excited frenzy would ensue? My vote is for the latter and job well done! Most posts on a thread in months!

    Is this a “Mortgage Information” blog or a “Mortgage tabloid”? You still post as “news” quotes of looooong-discredited “authorities” like the many Realtors with their quasi-research/crystal ball/wishful thinking “reports” to troll for fiery responses from the usual suspects around here and the counter responses they engender. Where are the stories that could really help people? How to REALLY shop for a mortgage? What to look for in loan paperwork to get the BEST loan and not make a mistake you will later regret? How to talk to your lender about modifying your own loan rather than hiring some two-bit “consultant” who will only do for a fee exactly what you could do for yourself for free? I have been waiting to see the real “in depth” stories and analysis but I just keep getting Steve Thomas “I hope I am right this time” reports or stories about dead executives designed to fire up the ogres! It’s why I stopped contributing as much to this blog and why after this thread I probably won’t be back!

  • Mathew Padilla, Reporter says:

    To all who question the post or the comments,

    Generally, the media reports on the deaths of newsmakers, and Ed Gotschall was a newsmaker. The public has a right to comment on the death of people who made news, who impacted the world.

    Those who wish to praise Ed, can do so, and those who wish to challenge his legacy can do so.

    You can argue either side. One can point to his donations and the expansion of credit to more people, and say he did more good than bad over his life.

    One can argue the opposite. One can say New Century and Ed encouraged people to take on more debt than they could afford and to strip the equity out of their homes.

    Ed declined my request for interviews during and after New Century’s collapse. Hence, Ed did not defend to me his sale of stock in 2006 totaling almost $20 million (he also bought $4.6 million of stock by exercising stock options). New Century has since said it overstated earnings that year. Ed was in charge of the financial reporting but in 2006 he was stepping back from the company, while remaining on the board of directors.

    New Century has said it is under federal investigation but never said which persons, if any, are under investigation.

    To be fair, Ed still owned more than 1 million shares of stock after all his sales. So one can argue that he was diversifying his portfolio as he stepped away from the company.

    The point of all this is that there is a cloud over the man and the company and readers are free to debate if the good done by the man who helped run the company outweighs any possible bad.

    -Matt

  • RC says:

    Padilla,

    However you want to spin it, go right ahead. Don’t raise the “journalistic expression” flag to make you feel good about the imbalance of your perspective and approach to this story. You are too obvious. Carry on as I know you will…at least until your old and gray and reflect back upon your life and how you could have approached certain issues with more tact and sensitivity.

  • Mathew Padilla, Reporter says:

    To RC,

    I allow your comment, because you are posting a rational argument, and because I believe in free speech. That’s not just a “journalistic expression flag” as you put it. I hope you appreciate the privilege of being allowed to comment on this and any other forum that you don’t control.

    -Matt

  • Kim F says:

    I worked for New Century for 3 years and like alot of people I lost money along with my job when New Century went BK. I was a shareholder and had a retirement account that evaporated with the assets of the company. In no way would I ever blame one individual for the mess that the subprime industry turned into.

    Ed was a very nice, caring man who left behind a family who grieves for him. For those who wish everyone dead who profited from the subprime industry, that would leave most of the country dead, including those homeowners who willingly obtained mortgages that they could not afford or did not understand. Everyone from the loan officer who called a borrower on the phone to originate the loan to the retail stores who reaped the benefits of homeowners cashing out every last dollar of their equity to buy big screen tv’s and bigger cars would be gone.

    It is abhorrent for anyone to say that this man deserved to die.

  • Steve M says:

    Ed was a great man, a great father and friend. I had the privilege of knowing him and his family for the past 12 years as I coached his son Ryan on several football teams.

    I am sincerely saddend by his passing and miss him very much. He always took time for others and expected nothing in return. To those of you who wish to be so brash and disrespectful in such a public forum for his family and friends to read and struggle with during this difficult time I simply ask you to stop. There is a time and place for everything, please. Thank you.

    To those of you who did know Ed, I want you to know that when I read your postings it was hard for me not to “see” Ed as he encountered each of you because he was the same with me and MANY of my close friends, day-in and day-out. Ed was simply a geniune good-hearted soul, generous, caring, loving and dependable. He had a great “ear” and offered it freely.

    To Ed, good bye my dear friend, I appreciated your friendship and will forever cherish it. You taught me a great deal , eventhough you may not have known it…….

  • Keith says:

    Maybe Ed and and Ken Lay can share the same bungalow some where in Fiji . Between them thousands on the streets . Lets see if the feds ask for some of the money back.

  • sunsetbeachguy says:

    Funny aren’t all con men trusted and religious people, who donate in the community?

    That is part of the act that allows the sheeple to be fleeced.

    If all of you supporters want to be blind men go walk with the shepherd but me my eyes are wide open.

    New Century was a big cog in the financial crisis and this guy played a big part in that.

    He wouldn’t even talk to the media to clear his name. I wonder why?

  • Cindy says:

    OMG CRY ME A RIVER

    SHAREHOLDERS WHO BELIEVED ED GOTSCHALL GOT WIPED OUT IN BK. I REPEAT WIPED OUT IN BK

    ALL THE LEMMINGS TOASTING THIS GUY MAKES ME SICK.

    TO PULL OUT 100 MILLION IN STOCK PROFITS AND THE SHAREHOLDERS GOT 0 IS AN OUTRAGE

    THE FAMILY SHOULD GIVE BACK THE MONEY TO SHAREHOLDERS WHO WOUND UP WITH 0 AND THE GOTSCHALLS ARE LVING LARGE

  • Gleongelpi says:

    SUNSETBEACH GUY

    Well said! The saps on this board should question where all the money Gotschall was donating came from!

    Gotschall makes me sick!

  • Rick says:

    When I first worked at New Century, I often arrived to work at the same time as Ed. We would chat on the elevator and I always found him to be genuine and sincere. I was there for about a month before I realized who he was. He never felt the need to introduce himself as one of the founders. A very humble man.

    The subprime situation is a mess and everyone who took out a loan under subprime conditions should look in the mirror if they want someone to blame for their economic woes. No one put a gun to their heads when they signed the loan docs.

  • sunsetbeachguy says:

    I hope and pray that the ill-gotten gains will be clawed back by the Obama administration as part of a truth & reconciliation campaign.

    Disgorging ill-gotten gains are a common remedy.

  • George says:

    Ed Gotschall was the CFO so he knew exactly what was going on. The FEDS should continue to try hold him responsible and hopefully do a clawback and get the money back from his family.

    That money belongs to former shareholders and taxpapers who got screwed not his estate.

  • Jaime says:

    Ed was one of the nicest, most sincere gentlemen I have ever known. He will be truly missed. God has one more angel doing his bidding now.

    To all those trying to bash him in a public forum, he was better than ALL OF YOU. You are bitter and rude, two things you would have never seen in Ed.

    Get over yourselves and grow up.

  • Bobarty says:

    Ed was one of the nicest, most sincere gentlemen I have ever known. He will be truly missed. God has one more angel doing his bidding now.

    I didn’t know God was into predatory lending.

  • shadow735 says:

    All I can say is those of you praising the death of this man make me sick. I feel a great sadness for our humanity when people express happiness at the death of any human. All life is precious and short and its a real loss when some of you chose to use up your time expressing negative wishes and thoughts rather then putting that energy toward something positive.

  • Steve N says:

    Ed was a very nice man and I’m glad I got to know him while working at NCEN.
    Some of the negative comments are from “people” who have no lives and watchdog matthew padilla’s columns waiting to pounce on subjects like these. To those of you who can’t give peace to a very good man at heart: Remember things always come full circle!
    God Loves you people too!

    Rest in Peace Ed!

  • Lisa from Capo says:

    Sue,
    I’m so sorry for your loss. You’re in my thoughts and prayers.
    Sincerely,
    From Lisa and your friends in Capo Beach

  • Reader says:

    Ed, you will be missed. You were so loved by Susan and your family, and I am lucky to have known you. I cannot imagine the heartbreak your wife is experiencing from your passing… she is such a beautiful person. You are both too good for this.

  • James W. says:

    Blaming Ed for the subprime mess is only valid if we can blame chefs on board Titanic for running into iceburgs. Rules were created to allow the subprime market to exist and EVERYONE thought they were doing their best to allow homeownership to millions of Americans. (including the people that created the rules…) So, the policy makers made mistakes, and from the mistakes, we live and learn. This is a big mess we can climb out of, it hurts, but… welcome to life, right? For the whiners, where were you 10 years ago when all the policies were written for “Homeownership for every American?” God Bless Everyone!

  • kathy says:

    THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH ‘GOOD INTENTIONS’,I EVACUATED SO CALIF 5 YEARS AGO,AFTER GROWING UP THERE AND SEEING WHAT BECAME OF IT.EDUCATION IS GREAT,I RECOMMEND IT ,LIBRARIES ARE ALMOST FREE,BUT CAN PEOPLE READ OR DID THEY JUST PREFER TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT TO? OH WELL HISTORY ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF,I REMEMBER WHEN THE O C WAS A REALLY NICE PLACE,NOW YOU ARE WHAT YOU ‘OWN’( YOU AND THE BANK)WISDOM IS STILL THE BETTER PART OF…..AS LONG AS FINANCIAL WEALTH IS THE BE ALL END ALL OF PEOPLES EXISTANCE,THE VALUES WILL FOLLOW THAT DESIGN.PICK YOUR POISON.lol ….WE CHOSE TO HAVE A CUSTOM HOME ON 5 ACRES,ALL PAID FOR …ELSEWHERE.hahaaha WE CAN VISIT THE OCEAN NOW ,WE ARE THE ‘TOURists’ HAHAHHA,GOD MUST HAVE AN AMAZING SENSE OF HUMOR.CONSUMERISM MAY SURVIVE BUT WILL THE COMSUMERS EVER LEARN THAT GLUTONY IS STILL A ‘SIN’?
    GOD BLESS THE MESS! HAVE A NICE NEW YEAR FOLKS LOL

  • Rory says:

    JAMES W

    Are you for real? The Chefs on the Titantic did not restate financials, pull out millions of dollars in stock profits and then go BANKRUPT!

    Gotschall was paid stock options on profits that were restated and the company filed bk. In addition, taxpayeers are stuck with billions in losses that New Century funded.

  • CK says:

    He probably donated so much to relieve some of the guilt he had for ruining so many people’s lives with those crap loans. He knew damn well what he was doing and don’t think he didn’t. It would take a complete idiot not to know that 99% of those people would lose their homes. A man asked me to go into that busienss and it took me all of an hour to see what they were doing. I have a conscious that cannot be bought by greed. He obviously didn’t.

  • CK says:

    Working for someone does not tell you what is actually going on inside of him. Appearances are very deceiving. Philanthropy does not make one a saint. The Mafia are some of the largets donators on the planet. Just because you can do something (subprime loans) does not mean you should do it. There is a huge difference.

  • shadow735 says:

    CK you are

    CK you are only addressing one component of the subprime meltdown (New Century) please don’t forget that they are many other parts to the whole mess.
    The Governments desire to put the American dream within everyone’s reach (regardless if you can afford it) This put pressure on Banks to make loans to people with substandard credit.
    The investors that put the call out for these loans because they were making money thru fees ect.

    The Borrowers that pulled all the equity out of their homes when things were good (so now they are upside down)

    Borrowers that lied on their stated income

    Borrowers that signed docs that they didn’t bother reading, trying to understand or hiring an attny to explain it to them.

    Borrowers that didn’t do the work required to make sure that they could afford the payments when the rate reset on their ARM.

    Lax underwriting standard which let loans fall thru the cracks and get funded when they shouldn’t have.

    Borrowers that obtained 100% or even 120% and banks that funded these loans with no money down.

    Borrowers that decided to only send in the partial payment so they had reverse amortization on their loan.

    If you really want to know the people that are the ones that are not to blame are Borrowers that are in default due to lost job, illness, or death in the family or some other instance out of their control such as direct fraud or identity theft.
    The fact is the banks have helped people get into homes and stay in them. Changes need to be made (and will be if banks learn from their mistakes) but Borrowers also have a responsibility to.

  • Rory says:

    This is a FARCE! Ed Gotschall made millions before the company restated books and went bankrupt. If the profits were restated and not real, why did he get to keep the money?

  • Jon H says:

    OK!! Just STOP!! Let the man rest in peace and his family grieve and try to move forward.

    For those who lost market value or have seen it wiped out in this current crisis, remember that the markets ( Equities, Fixed income, Real estate, and commodities for example) are inherently cyclical and carry varying degrees of risk. All of the above have been affected by some sort of market manipulation and it goes far beyond one man. In the 89’s S and L fiasco, Keating was not alone, neither were Levine, Boeski, and MIlken. The markets have eventually bounced back after major events going back to 1929.

    Please leave this man and his family be!

    JH

  • Rory says:

    JH -you are wrong!

    Gotschall was the CFO and cashed out for millions on the backs of innocent shareholder After Gotschall cashd out books were restated and the company went out of business.,
    Gotschall never returned the money.

    So the victims are SHAREHOLDERS who followed this wind bag!

  • Jon H says:

    Rory,

    How can you even comment on something that you know SO LITTLE about. Your entitled to your opinion but you have to know alot more about somewone and THEIR knowledge before you can say their are wrong. Bottom line, you were probably not even there and here you are pontificating??

    Get a life. Let this go and cherish your own family before trajedy befalls someone in it. The loss of someone close is tragic enough. Let it go.

    JH

  • RORY says:

    JON H

    I know more than you think. You need to wake up. You do not know the facts. How about class-action lawsuits, investigations and restatements of prior financials? He was the CFO so either pull your head out of the stand or stop being a stooge. He is not a nice guy.

    Stockholders got hurt and so did taxpapers

    How about BANKRUPTCY? Debate that.

    He was greedy.

  • RORY says:

    TYPO’S

    TAXPAYERS
    SAND

  • nmh says:

    Ed was a good man..my prayers go out to him and his family!

  • RORY says:

    All the posters claiming Ed is a good man must not have been NEW CENTURY STOCKHOLDERS who got wiped out while Gotschall cashed out for millions……Bernie Madoff is a nice man too and donated to charities.

  • jph says:

    I did not believe it when someone told me that people were placing hurtful comments regarding Ed Gotchall’s death online. This is not the time or place for people to be arguing about losing money. Seriously, welcome to the us economy….Everyone is losing money and its wrong to attack a man that is no longer around to even defend himself. People can believe whatever they want. Ed Gotschall was an extremely kind and generous man who sadly left a family that loved him very much. It is horrible that people are choosing to attack him during this sad time. Should there be other articles about him, please take out your frusteration elsewhere…not in a place where his family and friends are able to read hurtful comments. I am aware you may be upset but please be respectful.

  • Vasquez says:

    I did not see Gotschall apologize to shareholders or taxpayers who are holding the bag on the New Century bankruptcy. It is a shame
    I do not see any concern for them. All I see is hyperbole stating what a great guy he was. if he was such a great guy why didn’t he give shareholders some of their money back after they lost everything?

  • Liar Loan says:

    Maybe some of the patients at Mission Trauma Center were shareholders…

  • Melanie says:

    I didn’t know him at all, but I just wanted to extend my condolences to his family and friends.

    I worked for New Century until mid-2007, and if the majority of people that I worked with were a reflection of the founders and upper management, I am sure that he was as kind as many have said. NCEN is one of the best companies that I have ever worked for. I’m sure that this will seem corny to some, but I have been on job interviews where people have bashed New Century, and I tell them this very thing.

    They were very good to me. I’ll never forget that, and it’s a reflection of the caliber of people that I worked with.

  • Melanie says:

    Rory, I bet that a lot of the people that are posting about him are former employees that lost a BUNDLE in stock. What should that tell you.

  • Jon H says:

    Well said Melanie!

    You know what happens when people assume things and claim to know things they really don’t. The US economy is in a bigger mess than just how New Century was involved. Were they to blame for the Auto makers needing a bailed out, Citi group’s current trouble, or unemployment possibly hitting 10% this year.
    No. My holdings were wiped out there but it was no fault of this man. He was a good man who should be allowed to rest and the same for his family.

  • Rosalie Nowalk says:

    I went to grade school, middle school and two years of high school with Ed G. He dated Linda G. who lived next door to me in smalltown USA. Yes, Ed was a whiz kid. Yes, Ed had an amazing smile. I’m sorry to hear of his death. I wonder where he is now. I wonder if he’s sorry for anything. Life goes on.

  • CC510 says:

    I worked with Mr. Gotschall and had the utmost respect for him, I remember all of the incentive trips and the company’s generosity; Barcelona, Hawaii, etc. however, I too lost a lot as a result of the NCEN/HOME123 downfall…but I also gained a lot; and I helped a lot of people achieve their dream of homeownership and it was because of Ed Gotschall and the rest of the guys who made that company a great place to work! It is so sad to see these negative comments regarding the mortgage industry-there is a time and place for that, and it is not on this blog.

    God bless his family, he was a very, very nice guy!

  • spin99 says:

    He couldn’t take it with him and all the money in the world couldn’t buy him more time on this earth. I don’t care what kind of person he was to his friends and family. He cheated people out of their money and now he is dead. He was greedy. Enough said. Bye Bye and hope someone he duped out of their money will get something back.

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