Randy Johnson of Newport Beach, author of “How to Save Thousands of Dollars on Your Home Mortgage” and a mortgage broker since 1983, answers questions…
Kristi in Menifee asks:
Q. (Soon we will) miss our mortgage payment. Is a short sale the way to go? Our mortgage company said they would rather go that route and sent us a packet to fill out. What will happen after that? I have heard that if the debt shows paid-in-full on your credit report that in a little over a year you can be considered for a home loan. Is this true? Also if our house doesn’t sell can we then do a deed-in-lieu-of-foreclosure? We have always paid all our bills on time but now we just can’t afford it … I am just wondering what the credit ramifications are between a short sale and foreclosure and also knowing what our credit will be like will give us an idea if we need to find a long-term rental or possibly a cheaper one to get us by until we could buy again.
A. First, let me express my condolences to you and your family, Kristi. This is a tough time for many people.
There will be a severe hit to your FICO score. For that reason alone, it would be good to arrange a deal on your rental house while the landlord will see good scores marred only by late mortgage payments.
The second issue will be down payment. Obviously, you will not be in a position to buy a smaller, more affordable home until you have saved cash for down payment, closing costs, and reserves. So that will be the priority item in your financial life.
The rules about buying the next home are not clear but I’m going to give you the following guidelines.
Whatever route you choose, whether short sale or foreclosure, your credit will get a major ding, perhaps 100 points, maybe more. It will be important to keep everything else in order so that your credit score rises as this event becomes history. Getting back to over 700 would be a good goal.
Next, it will likely be at least three years before you would get approved for a mortgage. In the harshest of situations you might have to wait five years. It will help if your inability to make the payments on this home’s loan is due to a job loss or medical issues as opposed to financial mismanagement. If all you did was to bite off more than you could chew, that’s somewhere in between.
You should also plan to put 20% down. Less and the private mortgage insurance (PMI) companies get involved and it is not clear what their guidelines will be then, certainly strict.
I hope that this is helpful and I hope you will let me know about your progress.
Waitingtobuy in Irvine asks:
Q. “If I paid cash for a house at auction, is it possible to then later take out a first mortgage for the full amount paid? I realize a HELOC can be taken out, but what about a first mortgage?”
A. You might have a harder time getting a HELOC these days because many HELOC sources have dropped out of the business. Other sources will not let you use a HELOC to fund a purchase, so check.
As to a permanent loan, there are two issues. Many lenders will only use the actual purchase price for determining loan amount even if appraised value is higher. Others, however, will let you use the appraised value and if that is higher, you may get a larger loan, so check.
Last, this will be treated as a “cash-out refinance” and is subject to a pricing hit if you want a loan that is higher than 70% loan-to-value (LTV). Hit amount depends upon LTV and FICO score, so check!
You can see that having a close relationship with a competent, experienced lender who knows the ropes is going to be very important for you in this mission. Calling around will have you talking to people who don’t even understand the problem much less have answers.
Nora in Anaheim asks:
Q. My husband and I are retired. Last year we had an income of almost $90,000 and have about $350,000 in various accounts and own our house worth about $500.000. Our son made about $31,000 last year and is in an apprenticeship program where his salary will gradually go up to about $75,000 in the next 3 years as he finishes the program. We want to give him part of his “inheritance” now and help him get a house in the next year. I know we would have to figure out what price house to look for. Question: How can/should we arrange this? Shared title and deed it to him in a few years? Each of us be part owners?
A. This can be a little tricky because there are choices. Obviously he cannot qualify for much of a loan with his recent past income. This sounds a bit silly but you cannot qualify for a loan today based on next year’s income. You see what I mean. I see two options.
First is to try to have him buy a home himself with you both as non-occupying co-borrowers. Lenders’ rules are all over the map but he must be reasonably able to make the payments. For example, if the total housing payment is $2,000 and his income is $2,600 per month before taxes, you can see that he could not make this payment by himself.
Second and easiest, you can just buy a home as an “investor” property with the three of you as owners. He can move in and make the payments as “rent.” There is a modest pricing hit on the mortgage, say an extra point, because it won’t be treated as an owner-occupied property. But that is simple and direct. You can have a separate agreement as to percentage of ownership and income. See your CPA as to how this is treated.
I hope that this works out. There certainly are excellent buys around and I think that this is a great time for a buyer with a long time horizon.
That’s it. If you want Johnson to answer a question, email it to Mathew Padilla at mapadilla@ocregister.com. Include your name or nickname and the city you live in — that information will be published with your question. Johnson will answer up to three questions each week, so keep checking back for a response. If many questions are submitted, it could take a while to get a response, or he may never get to it.
















afford your mortgage? how about you cant afford your property tax bill……
I think she’d get much more than 100 points hit to her FICO - the bottom line is she’d probably hit the lowest 10th percentile.
I just read this for the first time when it was printed in Sunday’s paper and I had to write in about it. While I’m not surprised that the advice about Kristi’s rental situation was given or, based on the mortgage mess we’re in, that it was given by a mortgage broker, but I am surprised that the register would print it.
After all of the foreclosures we have seen, largely caused by people getting in way over their head with “liar loans” and all of the problems it has caused with the economy as a whole, isn’t it a little dishonest to tell someone to sign a lease before the landlord can find out that this person is a financial risk?
I’m sorry, I don’t know any more details about this person’s situation so I probably shouldn’t rush to judgment but this person is about to default on a loan and now you are telling her to basically trick someone into blindly help bailing her out. I’m getting sick of paying for other people making bad, or dishonest decisions about their own finances.
I’m also surprised that he didn’t mention going to thier lender and requesting a loan modification.
Many lenders are working with homeowners who are in over thier head. In many situations, lenders will lose less money if they modify the loan, rather than go to forclosure.
And, from what I understand, loan modifications do not dink your credit report.
My Partner has just lost his job and my monthly salary alone will not cover the mortgage and bills, while his looking for a job is there any chance we could put the mortgage repayments on hold intill his employment again or what other options do we have. saleing the house is no option as were on a 2year fixed mortgage.
I can tell you what they do from experience. My b/f lost his job and I cannot afford the house now on my own. This isn’t because of getting a “bad” mortgage or one where they lied. It is a thing of life that could not be controlled because of health issues and other things that just happen. I asked for help more than once from a lander. They wanted to take my vehicle payment and “roll” it into a home loan for 30 years. (I currently have 15 years left if all was well financially) - (paying off the car loan but putting the balance of the vehicle on the home) This includes ALL of my bills and I don’t have a lot of credit card debt. Then to “help” me they want to raise my interest rate to double what it currently is.
In all my 46 years of life, never has any first cousin, 2nd cousin or family members wet into hock with debt over their head, we are responsible hardworking honest people.
Thats the key getting honest with oneself,,, tired of hearing lost a job, cant afford this, that… and I see all these people mortaged with new cars, big screen tv’s…
get a grip people, health issues in their 40s??? if you had a pre exisitng why did you live high on the hog… save for a rainy day
you buy a house you dont buy a new car too… this is the mentaliy that got people into trouble…. when are people going to wake up?